Comments on: New World Order Conspiracy Theories http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:36:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Stuckinthemiddle http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16850 Stuckinthemiddle Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:59:07 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16850 To Jon: According to Islamic theology and doctrine, it is said that one will go to hell or heaven based on his or her deeds. If there are hard working people of other religions, yet they never had a chance to learn Islam, then they shall be permitted into paradise. It's more about intentions then anything else in general. A Muslim isn't guaranteed heaven either, it all depends on one behaves. I find Islamic theology a lot more interesting of the three Abrahamic faiths, to be honest. Of course there are many who say 'INFIDELS ARE EVIL, THEY BURN IN HELL' but then again there are many of each religion who have been told to think that way, and boy is that a shame. I just thought I'd clear that up and throw in my 2 cents. To Jon:

According to Islamic theology and doctrine, it is said that one will go to hell or heaven based on his or her deeds. If there are hard working people of other religions, yet they never had a chance to learn Islam, then they shall be permitted into paradise. It’s more about intentions then anything else in general. A Muslim isn’t guaranteed heaven either, it all depends on one behaves. I find Islamic theology a lot more interesting of the three Abrahamic faiths, to be honest.

Of course there are many who say ‘INFIDELS ARE EVIL, THEY BURN IN HELL’ but then again there are many of each religion who have been told to think that way, and boy is that a shame.

I just thought I’d clear that up and throw in my 2 cents.

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]]> By: Matt Gill http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16691 Matt Gill Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:13:45 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16691 Ok. So I saw previously that someone claimed that we did not train Al-Qaeda...that is correct... but we did arm them... just as we did saddam. Just as Rumsfeld sat on the board of directors of a company that actually sold north korea its first nuclear reactor in the 70's. As far as the CIA and mid-east goes...we DID train the Taliban. Its not connected but does anybody remember the movie Rambo 3. In that movie sylvester stallone as rambo goes to afghanistan to help the taliban fight the russians...so even hollywood had portrayed them as our buddies. Its the Hegellian Dielectic in full effect. We make the bad guys by selling them the weapons and then years down the road we have this uncontrollable "threat to our freedom" that we need to hurry up and snuff out. Is it any wonder to anyone how right before the oklahoma city bombing a homeland terrorism bill was trying to be passed through congress.... and amazingly...just in the nick of time....a federal building gets blown up...and the bill passes with flying colors. It should also be noted that it occured on a weekday and for some odd reason a LARGE majority of the federal employees in that building were where...oh...ON VACATION while the daycare center near the building was full of children...hmm? Is it any wonder to anyone how JFK came to FIRE allen dulles as head of the central intelligence agency after the failed bay of pigs invasion...yet...amazingly...right after the assassination Allen Dulles is on the warren commission as one of the people investigating the assassination...no conflict of interest there whatsoever. Does it amaze people when stories come out about dead american soldiers in vietnam having their corpses packed with heroin so it can be shipped back to the US.... Does it boggle anybodies minds how we are actually PROTECTING opium growers in afghanistan as I write this...even national geographic in a study had concluded that the output of heroin from afghanistan has more than quadrupled since the war on terror started...OH...and do your research because it was the Taliban that fought opium growers in the past...they were known for being brutal sure.. but they were actually burning opium farms to the ground....doesnt seem that bad to me...but im a veteran so... who listens to veterans anymore... Would it open your mind to know that one of the most decorated Marine Corps Generals, Smedley Butler, in 1935 claimed that he was approached by a group of industrialists including JP MORGAN, Chase International, Brown Brothers, Prescott Bush, and Du Pont...to lead a group of 500,000 veterans on a coup on washington...but he declined and came forward with the claims... certainly if you research this you will come across an old new york times article claiming it was all bogus and unproven....yet did you know that JP MORGAN pretty much owned the new york times since 1917....so...no conflict of interest there once again...Smedley Butler wrote a book entitled WAR IS A RACKET... I recommend it to anyone reading this post...google it...its online in its entirety and it is short and to the point.... Smedley Butler was a 2 time medal of honor recipient as well... but... hey... who listens to veterans anymore.... Ok. So I saw previously that someone claimed that we did not train Al-Qaeda…that is correct… but we did arm them… just as we did saddam. Just as Rumsfeld sat on the board of directors of a company that actually sold north korea its first nuclear reactor in the 70’s. As far as the CIA and mid-east goes…we DID train the Taliban. Its not connected but does anybody remember the movie Rambo 3. In that movie sylvester stallone as rambo goes to afghanistan to help the taliban fight the russians…so even hollywood had portrayed them as our buddies.

Its the Hegellian Dielectic in full effect. We make the bad guys by selling them the weapons and then years down the road we have this uncontrollable “threat to our freedom” that we need to hurry up and snuff out.

Is it any wonder to anyone how right before the oklahoma city bombing a homeland terrorism bill was trying to be passed through congress…. and amazingly…just in the nick of time….a federal building gets blown up…and the bill passes with flying colors. It should also be noted that it occured on a weekday and for some odd reason a LARGE majority of the federal employees in that building were where…oh…ON VACATION while the daycare center near the building was full of children…hmm?

Is it any wonder to anyone how JFK came to FIRE allen dulles as head of the central intelligence agency after the failed bay of pigs invasion…yet…amazingly…right after the assassination Allen Dulles is on the warren commission as one of the people investigating the assassination…no conflict of interest there whatsoever.

Does it amaze people when stories come out about dead american soldiers in vietnam having their corpses packed with heroin so it can be shipped back to the US….

Does it boggle anybodies minds how we are actually PROTECTING opium growers in afghanistan as I write this…even national geographic in a study had concluded that the output of heroin from afghanistan has more than quadrupled since the war on terror started…OH…and do your research because it was the Taliban that fought opium growers in the past…they were known for being brutal sure.. but they were actually burning opium farms to the ground….doesnt seem that bad to me…but im a veteran so… who listens to veterans anymore…

Would it open your mind to know that one of the most decorated Marine Corps Generals, Smedley Butler, in 1935 claimed that he was approached by a group of industrialists including JP MORGAN, Chase International, Brown Brothers, Prescott Bush, and Du Pont…to lead a group of 500,000 veterans on a coup on washington…but he declined and came forward with the claims… certainly if you research this you will come across an old new york times article claiming it was all bogus and unproven….yet did you know that JP MORGAN pretty much owned the new york times since 1917….so…no conflict of interest there once again…Smedley Butler wrote a book entitled WAR IS A RACKET… I recommend it to anyone reading this post…google it…its online in its entirety and it is short and to the point…. Smedley Butler was a 2 time medal of honor recipient as well… but… hey… who listens to veterans anymore….

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]]> By: darren http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16653 darren Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:58:40 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16653 New World Order? There is already a World Order, powerful Countries pulling together for the benefit of themselves (or at least their politicians and large multi national company backers). One persons freedom fighter is anothers terrorist etc - religion has a huge amount to answer for. It's also about time America stopped policing the World and started putting their own citizens first. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next 5 years when China will become the Worlds most powerful Country (if it's not already)- America has had a good run, but all Empires crumble in the end. New World Order? There is already a World Order, powerful Countries pulling together for the benefit of themselves (or at least their politicians and large multi national company backers). One persons freedom fighter is anothers terrorist etc – religion has a huge amount to answer for. It’s also about time America stopped policing the World and started putting their own citizens first. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next 5 years when China will become the Worlds most powerful Country (if it’s not already)- America has had a good run, but all Empires crumble in the end.

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]]> By: lele http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16347 lele Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:06:06 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16347 Well I think its real I mean there is too many facts showing its true cmon people global warming? Its a fraud to get us under control and haven't you guys noticed the increase in military commercials we all need to wake up before its too late because they are slowly changing things in our faces and people don't even take notice to it. Not just that they are doing experiments on soldiers and poisoning our foods. They even try to say mercury is good for you on the news when everyone knows its not, its sad because I'm 14 and I know more things then others.And theres more things I know but i'm not about to put it all down on here.... Well I think its real I mean there is too many facts showing its true cmon people global warming? Its a fraud to get us under control and haven’t you guys noticed the increase in military commercials we all need to wake up before its too late because they are slowly changing things in our faces and people don’t even take notice to it. Not just that they are doing experiments on soldiers and poisoning our foods. They even try to say mercury is good for you on the news when everyone knows its not, its sad because I’m 14 and I know more things then others.And theres more things I know but i’m not about to put it all down on here….

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]]> By: Steve http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16225 Steve Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:21:12 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16225 How is it "fairly obvious"? How is it “fairly obvious”?

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]]> By: Steve http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16224 Steve Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:20:28 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16224 Just because your paranoid doesn't mean their not after you. Just because your paranoid doesn’t mean their not after you.

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]]> By: JazzWoman1211 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16220 JazzWoman1211 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:57:34 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16220 I don't wear a tin foil hat & although conspiracy theories are quite provocative, I remain highly skeptical of all of them. If you are going to believe in conspiracies, then how in the world can you believe ANYONE & ANYTHING? Where do you draw the line between what's truth & what's deceitful? Who's good & who's evil? I mean, the paranoia will drive you insane; and common sense will be replaced with nonsense. At some point, you will be squirreled away in your basement with an arsenal of crisis garden seeds...waiting for Dec 2012...having not bathed in over a month...when in reality you are suffering from delusion & paranoid personality disorder. I don't discredit the nwo concept completely (I'm sure the idea has been among dinner table discussion among our 'oh so clever' world leaders from time to time); YET I also don't feel that a group of wealthy elites are plotting to take over the world. (evil laugh with reverb) That seems a bit too Dr.Evil/Austin Powers for me. Next thing you know, we'll be fighting off world domination from computers that have become human-like. But all kidding aside and I'm SERIOUS about this: I truly don't think human beings are INTELLIGENT enough to pull off something like a nwo AND get away with it. For as far as we've come in our evolution/advancements...we're still a bunch of bumbling, ignorant fools (no offense to anyone here, of course). Just my two cents... :0) I don’t wear a tin foil hat & although conspiracy theories are quite provocative, I remain highly skeptical of all of them. If you are going to believe in conspiracies, then how in the world can you believe ANYONE & ANYTHING? Where do you draw the line between what’s truth & what’s deceitful? Who’s good & who’s evil? I mean, the paranoia will drive you insane; and common sense will be replaced with nonsense. At some point, you will be squirreled away in your basement with an arsenal of crisis garden seeds…waiting for Dec 2012…having not bathed in over a month…when in reality you are suffering from delusion & paranoid personality disorder. I don’t discredit the nwo concept completely (I’m sure the idea has been among dinner table discussion among our ‘oh so clever’ world leaders from time to time); YET I also don’t feel that a group of wealthy elites are plotting to take over the world. (evil laugh with reverb) That seems a bit too Dr.Evil/Austin Powers for me. Next thing you know, we’ll be fighting off world domination from computers that have become human-like. But all kidding aside and I’m SERIOUS about this: I truly don’t think human beings are INTELLIGENT enough to pull off something like a nwo AND get away with it. For as far as we’ve come in our evolution/advancements…we’re still a bunch of bumbling, ignorant fools (no offense to anyone here, of course). Just my two cents… :0)

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]]> By: AJ http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16140 AJ Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:25:52 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16140 This in reponse to Bowser:What? Too many countries hate each other? The African Union is going to be formed, irrespective if we living in South Africa don't like any of the countries. US fighting "terrorists"? In whose opinion is Iraq terrorists? Oh yes the US confiscated all the "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Rockerfeller's quote about the NWO was actually documented in his biography. Maybe you should pick up a copy. AJ This in reponse to Bowser:What? Too many countries hate each other? The African Union is going to be formed, irrespective if we living in South Africa don’t like any of the countries.
US fighting “terrorists”? In whose opinion is Iraq terrorists? Oh yes the US confiscated all the “Weapons of Mass Destruction”.
Rockerfeller’s quote about the NWO was actually documented in his biography. Maybe you should pick up a copy.

AJ

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]]> By: PCTs are in the building http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16102 PCTs are in the building Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:28:16 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16102 I don't believe in the NWO conspiracy because their are many assertions and disinfo coming from either religious or spiritulist. I do agree with Bowser on this subject -the creationist churches trying to fight science so they claim that the bible is accurate and that REV 13:16 is correct on the RFID chips. This part of the piece, mostly gives it fuel for a doomsday mongerer. - The sheer notion that the illuminati was mostly a secret society in Germany, that was mostly founded for science reasons against the christian church. Its mostly why some creationist want to fight against people who are for science, but forget that the actual illuminati disolved aboutless than a decade and they are fighting a fictional war. - The quote mining that plays within this conspiracy, some of this includes 9/11. - The secret society of the bohemian grove, they believe that their is some gay reunion their and that they are peforming a ritual and burning a real child alive. This of course is false, because #1 the ritual looks like a play and not a ritual #2 The person who *infiltrated* into the club didn't even have a ID to show he was a member of the NWO. most of my other statements against the NWO conspiracy bowser already answered, which i do congradulate on bowser. I don’t believe in the NWO conspiracy because their are many assertions and disinfo coming from either religious or spiritulist. I do agree with Bowser on this subject

-the creationist churches trying to fight science so they claim that the bible is accurate and that REV 13:16 is correct on the RFID chips. This part of the piece, mostly gives it fuel for a doomsday mongerer.

- The sheer notion that the illuminati was mostly a secret society in Germany, that was mostly founded for science reasons against the christian church. Its mostly why some creationist want to fight against people who are for science, but forget that the actual illuminati disolved aboutless than a decade and they are fighting a fictional war.

- The quote mining that plays within this conspiracy, some of this includes 9/11.

- The secret society of the bohemian grove, they believe that their is some gay reunion their and that they are peforming a ritual and burning a real child alive. This of course is false, because #1 the ritual looks like a play and not a ritual #2 The person who *infiltrated* into the club didn’t even have a ID to show he was a member of the NWO.

most of my other statements against the NWO conspiracy bowser already answered, which i do congradulate on bowser.

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]]> By: Jon http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html/comment-page-2#comment-16087 Jon Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:10:15 +0000 http://www.conspiracy-theories-hoax.com/new-world-order-conspiracy.html#comment-16087 In response to HM "I’m not trying to preach anything here.." - I think you are doing exactly that. "If you look at the Masonic cult, you will see that they are worshippers of the Anti-Christ or Dajjal(I’m dead serious). Just look at their dollar bill or the one eyed symbols you might come across in other forms of media." - COMPLETE RUBBISH, they don't worship anyone in Freemasonry and symbols on the dollar bill is not a Freemason symbol. It was artist Simitiere, a non-mason that did the designs which included the "eye of providence" within a triangle which came from Renaissane art and you see this is old Christian Churches and Cathedrals. It is true that Freemasons have similar symbols now but they did not invent them. Like the Cross, it can mean different things to different people. Christians love the cross but Jews hate it because if symbolises hatred and making the whole Jewish race guilty for something they never did. Fundamentalist Christians thinks they are right, everyone else is wrong and see everything through the eyes of their brainwashed ideas that demands it is true and everything else is false. That view isn't much different from the witch hunters or crusaders who took a subjective one-sided view of life, religion, politcs etc and looked for someone else to blame as scapegoats like the Jews or some other poor defenceless group. You are so mistaken in suggesting that Masons worship 'Anti-Christ or Dajjal', that's just nonsense. There is no one person or hierarchy in freemasonry with some guy or 'Anti-christ' at the top. 'Anti-Christ' is a Christian myth anyway, just another person to blame for your own problems like the mythical Lucifer which does not exist in the Jewish theology and came from pagan myth. Freemasons worship no person in Freemasonry and members of any political or religious group can join and continue their own religion. I suggest your source of information is from second hand Christian information or from the Internet and you are a fool to swallow it hook line and sinker. For some, everything that isn't Christian and accepts that Jesus (who may never have existed at all) is God. How crazy is that? How dare we compare a human being to God. Religion and politics are not discussed in Freemasonry because they can cause division. Christianity is a good example of a religion that believes it's members are right and everyone else is wrong and will probably go to hell. Funny how Muslims believe they are right and you are wrong and you will go to hell. How do you know you are so right when others believe just as much that they are too. We could all learn something from the Freemasons who uphold "Brotherly Love, Relief, and Truth" and think of all human beings as equal.

In response to HM

“I’m not trying to preach anything here..” – I think you are doing exactly that.

“If you look at the Masonic cult, you will see that they are worshippers of the Anti-Christ or Dajjal(I’m dead serious). Just look at their dollar bill or the one eyed symbols you might come across in other forms of media.” – COMPLETE RUBBISH, they don’t worship anyone in Freemasonry and symbols on the dollar bill is not a Freemason symbol. It was artist Simitiere, a non-mason that did the designs which included the “eye of providence” within a triangle which came from Renaissane art and you see this is old Christian Churches and Cathedrals. It is true that Freemasons have similar symbols now but they did not invent them. Like the Cross, it can mean different things to different people. Christians love the cross but Jews hate it because if symbolises hatred and making the whole Jewish race guilty for something they never did.

Fundamentalist Christians thinks they are right, everyone else is wrong and see everything through the eyes of their brainwashed ideas that demands it is true and everything else is false.

That view isn’t much different from the witch hunters or crusaders who took a subjective one-sided view of life, religion, politcs etc and looked for someone else to blame as scapegoats like the Jews or some other poor defenceless group. You are so mistaken in suggesting that Masons worship ‘Anti-Christ or Dajjal’, that’s just nonsense. There is no one person or hierarchy in freemasonry with some guy or ‘Anti-christ’ at the top. ‘Anti-Christ’ is a Christian myth anyway, just another person to blame for your own problems like the mythical Lucifer which does not exist in the Jewish theology and came from pagan myth. Freemasons worship no person in Freemasonry and members of any political or religious group can join and continue their own religion. I suggest your source of information is from second hand Christian information or from the Internet and you are a fool to swallow it hook line and sinker. For some, everything that isn’t Christian and accepts that Jesus (who may never have existed at all) is God. How crazy is that? How dare we compare a human being to God. Religion and politics are not discussed in Freemasonry because they can cause division. Christianity is a good example of a religion that believes it’s members are right and everyone else is wrong and will probably go to hell. Funny how Muslims believe they are right and you are wrong and you will go to hell. How do you know you are so right when others believe just as much that they are too. We could all learn something from the Freemasons who uphold “Brotherly Love, Relief, and Truth” and think of all human beings as equal.

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