9/11 conspiracy: Stand Down Order.
Even if theoretically the terrorists could have hi-jacked 4 planes, and have been able to fly them to their selected targets, how did these 19 people get past the billion dollar air defence system of America? Where was NORAD the million dollar system that can pick out any planes flight number? And where was the fighter jets?
But this lack of defence can be explained without including the need of a conspiracy. It’s still not good for the American government, especially the secretary of defence.
NORAD is designed to pick out enemy planes outside of America, the radar going in a kind of a doughnut shape around the US. This means that if an attack came from within, this utility would be practically useless. Normal radar would also be helpless since the transponders where removed whilst in the air, meaning the security would have had to search through hundreds of of identical bleeps on the radar screens to find the hi-jacked planes.
They did eventually find flight 146, half an hour after the first tower attack, and sent 2 of the 14 fighter jets on standby to intercept the plane. They got there too late, the reason being at the time it was against the law to travel at subsonic speeds above heavily populated areas.
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September 10, 2007at 9:40 pm
A plea for sanity…
Dear “truthers”,
You are a cult. You are NOT any smarter, more informed, or superior in any way to the rest of us.
The methods that were used to draw you in and how you attempt to draw in others are very frightening to me, especially when I see how well it seems to be working. You have the most intolerant, hateful, insulting emotionally charged tone to your preaching, making every attempt to belittle and shame people into believing exactly as you do. You present your theories as fact and ridicule those who disagree with you.
This is how cultists operate.
I know by posting this, every one of you so-called “truthers” will post responses attacking me, probably without even reading all of this, claiming I’m blind, ignorant, or somehow in on this conspiracy, just as you do with anyone who says anything to disagree with you.
I’ve tried time and again to have rational discussions with you people and it always yields bitter results. I’m always mocked and insulted, which does nothing but makes me angry, and the opposing party is always frustrated that I never cave in and agree.
Most of the “truthers” that I’ve debated with claim they want to “take our country and our freedom back”. They claim THEY are the true patriots and that they are defending our constitution from those who have allegedly subverted our government, but I see no evidence that you encourage freedom of speech at all. This is where you might attempt to turn it around on me and call me a hypocrite for trying to suppress your opinions, but unlike you I have no problem with someone expressing a different point of view.
Fanatical devotion to your belief is what I have a problem with.
What’s really sad is the fact that I write all this knowing full well I will not get through to a single person, but I can always hope. I can hope that at least one person will wake up and realize they have been brainwashed. I can hope that at least one person will decide that maybe the people who are selling these theories don’t really have the best interests of the country in mind. I can hope that at least one person will understand that those who continue to push their version of the events of 9/11 don’t care about anything but their own agenda.
And that will continue to be my hope.
You have no proof of any of the claims you make and you never will.
January 10, 2008at 12:40 am
i totally agree with FU the post above mine. you are ALL brainwashed if you think the US government had anything to do wih 9/11….. You all should be confined to a small room and have cylcon B shoved in.. just like the killing of jew, pols, and all the others never happened.
January 10, 2008at 12:43 am
God there are some really sick US citizens. if you dont like it in the US MOVER OUT. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE….. WE DONT NEED YOU OR YOUR KIND HERE. Go to another country and when your jailed and butt fucked in your ass and mouth with out a trial maybe then you will say the US is a good country….
January 14, 2008at 5:39 am
Norad, its primary function is defensive and external (ie: detection of ICBM attacks on the USA for example). It’s also designed to and constantly does monitor all air space over north america.
I’ve just taken a look at the norad website and they claim that they have only had that responsibility since sept 11 201 ” Cheyenne Mountain added another mission to its historic legacy in the defense of North America. The terrorist attacks against the United States marked the beginning of Operation Noble Eagle. Operation Noble Eagle is a homeland defense mission incorporating NORAD’s mission of Aerospace Warning and Control to include the monitoring of the interior airspace of Canada and the United States. Today, NORAD and CMD stand ready to assist the Federal Aviation Administration and Navigation Canada in responding to any threatening or hostile domestic aircraft.”
I am petty sure however that the scanning of internal north american space was controlled by norad prior to sept 11 2001 and the FAA were a part of that process (it may be that Norad is singularly now responsible). I’ve jsut looked it up and FAA is part of the process prior to sept 11 “NORAD’s role in that case is to issue “scramble orders” for interception of the errant flight by jet fighters from U.S. Air Force Bases (”AFBs”). Interception of an errant flight allows for visual reconnaissance of the situation and a graduated menu of possible further actions (these might include attempts at radio contact, looking into the cockpit of the errant aircraft, visual signals such as tipping wings, attempts to force a landing, etc.).”
On the day in question NORAD was running exercises where attacking buildings with planes was one of the scenarios. those exercises it is claimed clogged nORADS ability to respond. Norad normally scambles within 10 minutes (nearest base was Mcguire AFB NJ), on sept 11 it took 80 minutes (I believe) to get it all happening. I have read a disgruntled report from one of the intercept pilots and that in itself is enough to make me think that something deliberate occured to delay them.
As for FU’s comments above their is nothing to comment on. A very unhelpful commentary.
Norad constantly sends intercepts within US airspace so your clearly misinformed about that. Intercepts happens consistently and constantly, normally they are not serious (ie trainee pilot takes a wrong turn etc).
June 18, 2008at 12:25 am
It really is hard to believe that the Sept 11 incident isn’t a conspiracy when you have all the facts presented to you. Firstly, I was watching the news when the reporter clearly said “It is believed that the US military has shot down flight 146.” they then were interviewing a witness. About 10 minutes later, they change the story with no mention that the original report was false.
Also, the planes that crashed into the towers WERE NOT PASSANGER JETS! Since when did airliners start using windowless planes?
What about the countless testimonials from firefighters that heard multiple explosions? That was also reported in the news report but it was then “not mentioned” again - just like the 146. What about the building that was “pulled” (demolished)? Do you know how long it takes to set up explosives to destroy a building and make it fall down perfectly? That also goes for the multiple explosions heard from tower A and B. They too fell perfectly. If the planes were the cause to the buildings demise, they would have fallen over.
If you all are as smart as you think, take a look at the hole in the pentagon. If you tell me a plane caused that, i will tell you that you need to have your eyes examined. Think physics for a moment and take a look at that hole and tell me a plane caused it… Think about the heat that jet fuel burns at and the lack of damage done to the structure.
The pentagon also has a mass array of CCD devices fitted to the exterior of the building - No footage was ever released…
And… How the hell did terrorists comandeer 4 passanger jets with little knowledge of how they operate. All airliners have a special computer in their aircraft which plots a course and makes adjustments based on radio beacons on the ground. Even if they had flight experiance, there is no way in hell are they going to know how to disable that device. Also, how did they know where the transponder was located? And, if they had removed it (in 4 aircraft) ATC would have noticed. They have never admitted (or denied) anything happened.
If you ask me… There is something suspicious here. Even if this wasn’t a conspiracy theory, the US government is hiding something.
To those who think this was purely a terrorist attack without any government involvement - you need to stop being a sheep and open up to possibility.
If Osama was behind it… Why has he not been caught?
Do the math on all of the events. You will see suspicious stuff emerging. You don’t need a PhD like me to see that.
July 5, 2008at 12:20 am
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